CC and C&CC CONTRACTS

STRONG OPINIONS!   youd better not catch me at 10pm after ive just put out 2 bbqs,picked up 4 piles of campers dog shit and booked a group of late night Spanish in....all on unpaid stand -by.
what kinda crap "style of life " must some people have had before if they consider working for the C&CC A good change of "lifestyle"

GRRRRRRR

Ive had a chance to look at the new C&CC club contract over a few a beers with past and present HSA and AW. Whilst the new CC contracts are not out yet this seems a good time to highlight the changes brought in ,we presume ,by Jenny Jackson's replacement.

A    The contract has no named site and has a provision that you can be moved to any site to suit the club.

B     " the club reserves the right to vary employees normal hours"  condition 8.3 ..   so you can be moved to another site without         argument and your hours cut to suit

C        the usual scandalous clauses which allow the C&CC to encourage managers to pressure staff to work unpaid . such as
          8.1 "employees may be required to work extra hours"
          8.4  " the employee will also be required to cover standby time on a rota basis"
          6.4  " the employee shall not be paid for any hours worked in addition to contracted hours"

and then the cheek of it  they ask you to sign away your right not to work more than 48 hours!!!!! which you will be doing for free.....uuuggghhhh!   clause 9.0  "working time opt-out"

ITS ENOUGH TO DRIVE YOU TO DRINK

which we cant do now as pointed out by another member on here

clause 22  " may search individuals and bags for alcohol in employees possession "

 i dont know about a catheter bag fitted i gonna try the bottle in the cistern tank like we did at school

 

Well the CC have allocated places for next year with contracts following shortly.
its not a bad offer about 45-46 hours for first years and at £6.70 . and no name badges and you let campers pitch themselves and pop back in the office to tell you which pitch they like( now that's a real friendly club!!)

for a first year the wage for a couple is about £1000 per month extra when you factor in the higher hourly rate and the fact they pay you for all the hours you work.

we will report back when all the contracts have been received and we can have a look at theM side by side in the sun over a few beers....but its looking like the CC staff down here will be buying the HSA,s a few beers to comiserate

Ive had a think and were going to write several posts comparing CC and C&CC CONTRACTS,
were going to split it into sections as follows

1 comparison of the 2 major clubs,why you might want to work for them 

2 application process (application,assessment and HR dept style etc )

3 contract condition  ...wages,extras pitches and sites provided

4 health

5 what if it all goes wrong


NOTE   points 2 to 5 will be objective ,simply comparing whats on offer ,,written without opinion ...whereas point 1 has been compiled from the drunken ramblings of past and present AW / HSA 

1 THE TWO MAJOR CLUBS

Both major clubs were founded as member driven organisations dedicated to a principle of self-help......a principle popular at the start of the 1900.People clubbed together and bought land,built basic campsites and camped/caravanned/rallied. These clubs collected "subs" had well meaning committees and used the skills of volunteers and family members to help run the clubs.....anyone aged 50+ will remember these kind of clubs...football/swimming/travel/scouts/guides....it was a kinda golden age

Sadly things have changed

Whilst both clubs remain "clubs" they have both lost there hearts to business....( dont worry im not a looney leftwinger )...whilst any club must be organised competently and  kept financially  sound ,both clubs have moved into  a different world.
The  clubs have experimented with  drastic "re-themeing ",membership drives into non member demographics,dodgy land deals,active/easy-jet style pricing ,camping pods( hated to a man by all staff).

differences still exist

the C&CC is less under HQ guidance ,club sites  have more individual feel and standards of management and staffing vary widely.Sites attract more of a mix of caravans /MH /tents and this can make more work for HSA on site. The C&CC also have introduced a strange layer of management called RSMs ...a system whereby an experienced campsite manager is given  responsibility for a group of sites in his area.....with little extra money and no authority they are seen as next to useless by most staff.

The CC regard themselves as the cream and look down their   noses at  the C&CC,most CC staff dislike campers and see them as a nuisance...the kinda people who "walk  mud into the showers"   and drink out of beer cans at all hours. The staff can come across as a bit "Hyacinth Bouquet/Victor Meldrew "!That said the CC  offer far better wages,training,facilities and look after staff.

THE REAL PROBLEM
As anyone who has ever worked on a site will know the real problem is your fellow staff.....whilst dodgy customers will moan and complain they are only staying for a week and will leave taking their sad faces with them. Sadly dodgy staff stay the whole season.  Whilst both clubs have lots of nice staff they are also cursed with the  same mix of dodgy staff ..its a yearly lottery ....some years you win some years you loose

SO YOU STILL WANNA WORK FOR A CAMPING CLUB ?
If youve got a thick skin,can keep your own council and have an ability to smile at people you hate then read on

DRINK


If your going to work on a camp site you better had. 

The two clubs have different approaches to booze which might tell you something about either club( don't know what ,you tellme!)

The CC ask you how much you drink(in units) in a questionnaire....they also ask for your GPs phone number and address

The C&CC have a different aproach!  They have the right to search you for booze whilst at work ( yep its in this years contract )

I had to check the internet for the CC questionaire and was over the moon when it said 14......then i saw units.....then I saw AWEEK!!!!.most staff need that after a busy Friday night
Think I'll have to borrow the daughters "Bong" as neither clubs mention crystal meth in their contracts





Bye for know

application and assessment process 

A   regular complaint  from people trying to get work with either of the two  big clubs is the complicated and drawn-out application process

THE CARAVAN CLUB FIRST
 A phone call or email to the HR dept at East Grinstead will get a postal application to you by post. You should have been a member for at least 1 year i think . Fill in the form ,( try it sober is my top tip) and send it off ...after photocopying it first so you can remember the lies you've written down later at any interview.

After many months you may be invited to an assessment/Interview where you will be given lunch,interviewed by loads of HR types( fresh out of  uni....never pitched a caravan in their  short cute life ). You will have to do a pointless task as a group....putting up a frame tent is the usual  task. Next up is a written maths test,then its off to face an actor pretending to be a complaining customer ,then group chats with another HR type,interviews with regional mangers  .If you've worked for another club its a breeze.  Top tips are ;1, Take a pencil and paper into the actor session to write names down etc  2,.Take a calculator into the math test. 3 Read your application just before the day.


Next up after the interview you will be contacted and given the yes/no.  If its yes you then have to attend an assessment/work exp weekend where you will "shadow" a recently sobered up assistant warden around and clean toilets,check people in ,clean up etc . Its  a chance for the CC to make sure your up to the job mentally and physically( bending,carrying etc).


Then if they still like you its paperwork time.They send medical questionnaires,insurance this,Mot that....endless paperwork

Then if its all well you attend your final hurdle...a weeks training down south...then its time to start work at a camp site




The whole process can take at least a year..often a couple. Keep phoning up to check any progress and write down who and when youve spoken to HR.....they seem to have dozens of staff in HR!!!! and best of luck.