Not putting up with it any mor
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Post by Not putting up with it any mor on Dec 11, 2015 17:01:12 GMT
I've seen the e-mail and we've sat down and thought about it. We're experienced 4th year HSA's, with no desire to be managers. (The Club take the p*ss enough now and I don't have the extra managers responsibilities for bugger all!)
We've lost the responsibility allowance, yet the responsibilities are getting increased. Don't think so? Ask your manager/RSM about who is going to be expected to train new staff on larger sites. The experienced HSA's that's who! All for nothing!
We'll still be expected to cash up, do monthly bank cash ups and handle, on some sites reasonably large amounts of cash, expected to work the extra hours on standby, and on two couple sites fill in for the managers on their days off. All for nothing!
We have no control over what sites we get sent to, how long our contracts are, or, how long our hours are. This now all has a direct bearing on how much we can earn. The whole "preference form" at the end of season is a waste of time. How many of you have asked for certain areas and been sent elsewhere without so much as an explanation? We are treated by everyone from above HSA level, and even some of them have "staff management issues"! The Club has absolutely no interest in any of us from the second we arrive on site. Health problems? So what. Family issues? yada yada! issues about pay, conditions or bullying at work? So who cares? Don't bother us! How many have e-mailed or phoned their BDM and had no reply? We're just nothing to them.
So finally we've had enough and despite enjoying the work and meeting most of the campers, and so far ALL of our colleagues were resigning from the work. Next time you see me I want a decent pitch in a quiet area, near the beach, away from the play area with good wifi and sat dish reception. And wo betide you if I don't get it! I am a me,her you know!!
Adios and good luck suckers!
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dont be so hasty now
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Post by dont be so hasty now on Dec 11, 2015 19:21:55 GMT
a couple of HSAs who hopped over to the other side a couple of seasons ago had gone through the CC selection process whilst under offer from the CCC.The CC were very happy with em but couldn't offer them a contract for next season so they started that spring for the CCC again with heavy hearts. Low and behold another CC new starter pulled out and HR rang em up and said "can you start Monday please"
24 hours later /awning down/pegs pulled up and off they went.
So if you want to jump i would say stay in work as it looks better for the next club,play your cards close to your chest and if the call comes take it.
And while im here another couple who jumped last season completed the assessment and couldn't make the training for that year and the club went out of there way to help with proper onsite training by the Clubs traveling trainers so they could start that year. You wouldn't think it by the CCC's behavior but there is a shortage of good recruits in our 2 clubs and demand outstrips supply( which is why the CCC LIKES TO KEEP STAFF IN THE DARK TO DAMP DOWN STAFF DEMANDS)
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Post by dingwall bully on Dec 11, 2015 19:31:37 GMT
just read the Dingwall bully got let off.It raises a few issues
1,how does it make the staff who suffered under him feel? they will feel badly let down . 2,it will send the message out to all that its useless to complain about managers because you will not be listened to 3,how can he be given another site to run as no-one will work for him...except some poor ignorant newbie ( what an awfull thing to do to new staff) 4, How much will he claim now as Sexual harassment now the CCC has given him the green light to counter claim$$$$$$$$$$$....his past record of claiming sexual this and sexual that is enlightening
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what arouses you on site?
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Post by what arouses you on site? on Dec 12, 2015 2:34:04 GMT
have you read the new mobile phone policy for The CC ( I know im sad) It seems they will monitor the use of the new call out phone which we will carry when off site but on call out..this phone is for emergencies after 8pm when peeps cant check in
It says you are not allowed to download anything of an" arousing nature"....well thats me buggered( bad choice of adjective). Personally its pictures of type 1 VW campers in original livery that does it for me..how about you?
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Post by fedupwithwhingers on Dec 12, 2015 15:38:16 GMT
I'm told if you read your paperwork then do the calculation - nobody has "lost" their responsibility allowance - nor their commission for selling rubbish regalia. The salaries on offer are all above last season. The only time you'll earn less is if you're offered less hours on your contract when /if you move to another site and no site has less hours than 2015 season. As for the CC idea that you can have a phone when you're on late shift what difference will that make ? You could be 1/2 hr away when the late arrival rings, or mid way through a pub meal - so as a camper would you be happy to wait for somebody to get back to site? I'll bet you'll get greeted with a very sour faced punter!! Stupid idea !! So CC are ringing people to start work ? Hmmm - wasn't that something you all moaned about re the CCC ? Starting people with no proper training? And why the problem helping to train your colleagues when they're new ? There is no " I " in team - neither is there any reason why you should be moaning about cashing up etc. It's a part of the job and shows everybody you're trusted and competant and without being able to do those basics you'll not get to be managers - oh yes that's right you didn't want to be did you !!?? Just wanted to do the least for the most - sorry it don't work that way - be proper team players and maybe things would have been different - so yes Adios and good riddance.
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Post by FFS on Dec 12, 2015 20:17:15 GMT
I'm told if you read your paperwork then do the calculation - nobody has "lost" their responsibility allowance - nor their commission for selling rubbish regalia. The salaries on offer are all above last season. The only time you'll earn less is if you're offered less hours on your contract when /if you move to another site and no site has less hours than 2015 season. As for the CC idea that you can have a phone when you're on late shift what difference will that make ? You could be 1/2 hr away when the late arrival rings, or mid way through a pub meal - so as a camper would you be happy to wait for somebody to get back to site? I'll bet you'll get greeted with a very sour faced punter!! Stupid idea !! So CC are ringing people to start work ? Hmmm - wasn't that something you all moaned about re the CCC ? Starting people with no proper training? And why the problem helping to train your colleagues when they're new ? There is no " I " in team - neither is there any reason why you should be moaning about cashing up etc. It's a part of the job and shows everybody you're trusted and competant and without being able to do those basics you'll not get to be managers - oh yes that's right you didn't want to be did you !!?? Just wanted to do the least for the most - sorry it don't work that way - be proper team players and maybe things would have been different - so yes Adios and good riddance.
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Post by FFS on Dec 12, 2015 20:18:17 GMT
I'm told if you read your paperwork then do the calculation - nobody has "lost" their responsibility allowance - nor their commission for selling rubbish regalia. The salaries on offer are all above last season. The only time you'll earn less is if you're offered less hours on your contract when /if you move to another site and no site has less hours than 2015 season. As for the CC idea that you can have a phone when you're on late shift what difference will that make ? You could be 1/2 hr away when the late arrival rings, or mid way through a pub meal - so as a camper would you be happy to wait for somebody to get back to site? I'll bet you'll get greeted with a very sour faced punter!! Stupid idea !! So CC are ringing people to start work ? Hmmm - wasn't that something you all moaned about re the CCC ? Starting people with no proper training? And why the problem helping to train your colleagues when they're new ? There is no " I " in team - neither is there any reason why you should be moaning about cashing up etc. It's a part of the job and shows everybody you're trusted and competant and without being able to do those basics you'll not get to be managers - oh yes that's right you didn't want to be did you !!?? Just wanted to do the least for the most - sorry it don't work that way - be proper team players and maybe things would have been different - so yes Adios and good riddance.
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Post by On The Edge on Dec 12, 2015 20:22:13 GMT
I'm told if you read your paperwork then do the calculation - nobody has "lost" their responsibility allowance - nor their commission for selling rubbish regalia. The salaries on offer are all above last season. The only time you'll earn less is if you're offered less hours on your contract when /if you move to another site and no site has less hours than 2015 season. As for the CC idea that you can have a phone when you're on late shift what difference will that make ? You could be 1/2 hr away when the late arrival rings, or mid way through a pub meal - so as a camper would you be happy to wait for somebody to get back to site? I'll bet you'll get greeted with a very sour faced punter!! Stupid idea !! So CC are ringing people to start work ? Hmmm - wasn't that something you all moaned about re the CCC ? Starting people with no proper training? And why the problem helping to train your colleagues when they're new ? There is no " I " in team - neither is there any reason why you should be moaning about cashing up etc. It's a part of the job and shows everybody you're trusted and competant and without being able to do those basics you'll not get to be managers - oh yes that's right you didn't want to be did you !!?? Just wanted to do the least for the most - sorry it don't work that way - be proper team players and maybe things would have been different - so yes Adios and good riddance. If you don't like whingers you are living up to your name never heard so much crap in my life , you are the one doing the whinging and slagging people off for telling the truth or does the truth hurt I think you need to get a life outside the club. Please tell us what site you work on and we can ask your staff how good you are
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Post by FFS on Dec 12, 2015 21:36:27 GMT
I'm told if you read your paperwork then do the calculation - nobody has "lost" their responsibility allowance - nor their commission for selling rubbish regalia. The salaries on offer are all above last season. The only time you'll earn less is if you're offered less hours on your contract when /if you move to another site and no site has less hours than 2015 season. As for the CC idea that you can have a phone when you're on late shift what difference will that make ? You could be 1/2 hr away when the late arrival rings, or mid way through a pub meal - so as a camper would you be happy to wait for somebody to get back to site? I'll bet you'll get greeted with a very sour faced punter!! Stupid idea !! So CC are ringing people to start work ? Hmmm - wasn't that something you all moaned about re the CCC ? Starting people with no proper training? And why the problem helping to train your colleagues when they're new ? There is no " I " in team - neither is there any reason why you should be moaning about cashing up etc. It's a part of the job and shows everybody you're trusted and competant and without being able to do those basics you'll not get to be managers - oh yes that's right you didn't want to be did you !!?? Just wanted to do the least for the most - sorry it don't work that way - be proper team players and maybe things would have been different - so yes Adios and good riddance. If you don't like whingers you are living up to your name never heard so much crap in my life , you are the one doing the whinging and slagging people off for telling the truth or does the truth hurt I think you need to get a life outside the club. Please tell us what site you work on and we can ask your staff how good you are ..........or maybe you could give us your name, so we can make sure you don't come to our site! Fed up with whingers. .......couldn't agree with you more!
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Post by just a point on Dec 13, 2015 2:23:10 GMT
The phone works just like the bell on CC sites because WE DONT HAVE ANY LATE ARRIVALS AFTER 8PM..DOUUUUGH...END OFF Its even easier to direct em to the LNA area by phone from the pub or my unit.
And as for someone telling me its alright to cut one area of wages whilst being forced by Government to increase another whatever the maths it stinks and will damage what morale is left.
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Post by rickey gervaise voice over on Dec 13, 2015 2:49:12 GMT
I'm told if you read your paperwork then do the calculation - nobody has "lost" their responsibility allowance - nor their commission for selling rubbish regalia. The salaries on offer are all above last season. The only time you'll earn less is if you're offered less hours on your contract when /if you move to another site and no site has less hours than 2015 season. As for the CC idea that you can have a phone when you're on late shift what difference will that make ? You could be 1/2 hr away when the late arrival rings, or mid way through a pub meal - so as a camper would you be happy to wait for somebody to get back to site? I'll bet you'll get greeted with a very sour faced punter!! Stupid idea !! So CC are ringing people to start work ? Hmmm - wasn't that something you all moaned about re the CCC ? Starting people with no proper training? And why the problem helping to train your colleagues when they're new ? There is no " I " in team - neither is there any reason why you should be moaning about cashing up etc. It's a part of the job and shows everybody you're trusted and competant and without being able to do those basics you'll not get to be managers - oh yes that's right you didn't want to be did you !!?? Just wanted to do the least for the most - sorry it don't work that way - be proper team players and maybe things would have been different - so yes Adios and good riddance. This really works if you read this post in the voice of Ricky Gervaise from The Office TV show....and when he writes,"lost" you can imagine him making those little 2 finger together signs in the air like they do...CLASSIC. AND he really did write,"There is no"I" in team.........imagine him saying that in the back office over a team meeting...you would piss your pants with laughter. Oh and if your competent at spelling use an e not an a. KISSES
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Post by the colonel on Dec 13, 2015 3:03:59 GMT
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"As for the CC idea that you can have a phone when you're on late shift what difference will that make ? You could be 1/2 hr away when the late arrival rings, or mid way through a pub meal - so as a camper would you be happy to wait for somebody to get back to site? I'll bet you'll get greeted with a very sour faced punter!! Stupid idea !!"
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Damn impudent chap this,classic oink..hasn,t done his prep at all We at the hallowed CC DONT DO A LATE SHIFT.The office is closed at 8pm ,the Mem Sahib cashes up pronto and answer phone put on.Meanwhile im popping the olives into the martinis and donning my dressing gown and slippers. Once the "office closed 8pm" sign goes up its "lock-down"...unless the bell goes and someone needs gas in which case im up like a shot as we share shop/gas profits of course and nothing motivates staff like the sordid coin
PIP PIP for now
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aroused by old hymers
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Post by aroused by old hymers on Dec 13, 2015 3:23:05 GMT
is it wrong? should i dob myself into the rozzers? they are so nice,i have all on to stop myself rubbing my hand around the back side of them when no one is watching. Ive hidden my lust from the Wife for so many years , but one day she will find those back copies of,"HymerGesallshaaft dkmv" behind the wardrobe im sure.
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Not putting up with it any mor
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Post by Not putting up with it any mor on Dec 13, 2015 9:56:08 GMT
Wow! Did I touch a nerve! Anyway, we do get involved in helping work the site. We are more than happy to help any other members of the "team" by swapping shifts, days off, working until the last one is in on a Friday, cashing up etc. I've never refused it in any job let alone this one. My beef isn't with other staff on site. I did state we've never worked with anyone we didn't get along with. My objections are to be taken for granted by the management who have very little proper idea of the work done by site staff. They have no experience of dealing with the myriad of quirks and problems raised by those people coming to site, who, because of the way society is these days, expects their requests and foibles to be granted irrespective of policies and site rules. But that is par for the job so yes we do whinge but hey ho! I expect from my employer to be dealt with respectfully, professionally and honestly. We have no staff organisation acting on our collective behalf, so it is more important that our employers take on board any issue we may have with our contracts and hours. They can't please everyone and we have to operate in a sound financial business way, but that doesn't excuse them when phone calls and e-mails about these topics go un-answered and ignored. Neither does it excuse them from not having legal and fair practices and policies for recruitment, promotion and staff training. Where is the standard interview? Where is the fair and equitable site allocation? Who here was assessed properly for their PPDR? Has anyone working on a site had correct manual handling training for lifting and carrying? Has anyone been trained to be a first aider? There is a legal requirement for someone to be available and trained to deal with accidents at work, anyone here been trained? What about our responsibilities for being responsible for the health and safety of the campers? Anyone here been properly trained by the CCC? Training someone is an important task and should be done by qualified staff. The fact I know how to operate the grass cutting equipment doesn't mean I'm qualified to show someone the correct handling techniques or safe working practices. If I do teach someone something wrong and it causes an accident and they get hurt, there can\will be legal ramifications and the Club will be very quick to point the finger right back at one of the site team, despite me not being trained to train! Our working hours exceed anything in the legal framework of UK or EU law. The Club know this but rely and expect us to just do the job without pay and with virtually no chance of getting the time back. The page in your contract where we sign to opt out of the EU Working Time Directive is illegal. It should be a separate page that has no bearing on your contract. Making you sign and making it dependent on you opting out isn't a valid contract. We're all adults and not stupid. Many site staff had responsible posts in previous employment, yet we put up with stuff we wouldn't even entertain as a suggestion there! We all do love the lifestyle and it has many perks, but again that doesn't excuse our employers from being honest and respectful. They keep saying they want site staff to be more professional, perhaps if they were being professional to us it might just help. Incidentally, we're not jumping ship to another club. By the way, there may not be an "I"in team, but there is a "ME"!
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Post by Whydoidoit on Dec 13, 2015 12:57:33 GMT
I think we are loosing the point here. Yes, we will be better off next year but not as much as we would have been if we still had the other bits we've got this year. We get very little in terms of loyalty or thanks from the ivory towers so taking the responsibility allowance away is bound to wind us all up, and in a lot of cases (me included) set us off on a whinge. The tax man will not look at our pitch as a gift or payment in kind any more than he would a carer doing a sleep in night shift. We couldn't do our unpaid on call overnights if we went home. Our contract states we must stay on site. Farm workers are not taxed on accommodation for the same reason. I know quite a few assistants that do still run a house as well. After all we all have to go somewhere in the off season and not everyone heads for the sun. (Note the hint of jealously in my voice there! Lol) The point is are we going to do anything about it? Instead of moaning and falling out between ourselves (which I'm sure is pleasing the ivory towers no end, don't think for a minute they are not watching this board!) Why don't we use the skills and knowledge that we have all brought to this job from our previous lives to work out what we can do? The club relies on divide and conquer. On us all being too scared of getting the rubbish short contracts if we make a fuss. We need to remember that without us the club would cease to exist very quickly. Together we have power. So what can we do?
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